tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post7121089626651359267..comments2023-11-06T13:07:23.645-05:00Comments on The Quintessentially Questionable Query Experiment: JD's Query for LOST AND FOUND CritiquedMatthew MacNishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03264738483763244969noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-64242476482672835042010-12-01T16:06:07.444-05:002010-12-01T16:06:07.444-05:00I'm beyond late, as usual. I really liked the ...I'm beyond late, as usual. I really liked the query, and agree with most of what Matt said. And what everyone else said. <br /><br />Of course, I didn't notice any grammatical errors, but that's totally not my strong suit. <br /><br />I do just want to say that while everyone is talking about "voice this" and "voice that" you have to use the voice of the novel in the query. And if it's well-written and gets to the main conflict and consequence of your story, it's fine. <br /><br />Not every query has to be "voiced up" you know? So I'm just wondering if your MS is written this way. If it's not, then you shouldn't try to do something to your query that would make it different from the novel. <br /><br />Okay, end of soapbox. :)Elana Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05877856005992028912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-23649528382552737282010-11-26T21:27:12.797-05:002010-11-26T21:27:12.797-05:00Oh Justine, this takes me back to the early days o...Oh Justine, this takes me back to the early days of Bransforums! I like this query, but I'll offer some ideas of tightening it up and places you could instill the voice/vibe of the character. <br /><br />Kelly Moore dreams of winning the National Barrel Racing Championship—something no twelve-year-old has ever done. But when her horse is stolen, Kelly’s dreams of trophies turn to nightmares of her beloved Rocket lost to a slaughterhouse.<br /><br />Hanging missing horse flyers and questioning patronizing adults is getting her nowhere. Even her parents turn against her after she breaks into the (uber-creepy?) barn manager’s office to nail the slimeball.<br /><br />With no adult listening, Kelly teams up with her least favorite person, Missy-nose-in-the-air Taylor to find their missing horses. <br />When the horse thieves catch them hiding in a trailer, these would-be Nancy Drews have more to fear than the safety of their horses.<br /><br />Ghost in the MachineTamara Narayanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03725262301091012950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-32787693326348964862010-11-24T17:31:29.804-05:002010-11-24T17:31:29.804-05:00I didn't read anyone's comments (even Matt...I didn't read anyone's comments (even Matt's!) so I could be unbiased :)<br /><br /><br />Twelve-year-old Kelly Moore is determined to do something someone her age has never done before: win a National Barrel Racing Championship. All she has to do is win the State Finals and she’ll be on her way. When her beloved horse, Rocket, and seven other horses are stolen right after she competes at the finals, Kelly freaks.<br /><br />^The last sentence, where she freaks, is a little over the top for me. I think it's just a word choice issue for me. <br /><br /><br />Kelly’s biggest fear is that her horse is on its way to the slaughterhouse. She hangs missing horse flyers everywhere and questions everyone. No luck. When she accuses a barn manager of theft and breaks in to his office in an attempt to prove his guilt, Kelly’s gets a dose of parental retribution. But she won’t give up.<br /><br /><br />^This, I think, it too much detail.<br /><br /><br />Kelly’s nemesis, Missy, had her horse stolen too. And Missy’s bound and determined to not let Kelly leave her out of the chase. Kelly finally catches a hot lead and does the unthinkable: hides in the horse thief’s trailer with Missy at her side. They find the horses but get caught by the bad guys in the process. No one’s future is looking bright when a fire engulfs the barn they’re in.<br /><br />^This is something I think you could condense. It's a lot of detail--all I really need to know is Kelly and Missy's horses are gone, she has to work with her frenemy to get them back, and it gets dangerous at the end. The extra stuff, about the fliers and the parental involvement and everything, are the details that make your BOOK good, but that aren't needed in the query.<br /><br />Kelly must put her dislike of Missy aside while they work together. If she doesn’t, the girls won’t be able to save themselves—or their beloved horses—before it’s too late for them all.<br /><br />LOST AND FOUND, a middle grade novel, is complete at 31,000 words. <br /><br />^Those last two paragraphs are really good.<br /><br />OK Now I'm going to read Matt's comments...<br /><br />I do think a little backstory would be good--but not much. Here's the way I think of it: each story tends to have an external plot (horses missing) and internal plot (working with enemy). So your backstory should focus on those things: how much she loves the horse and hates Missy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431700962951592287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-79896787749442681042010-11-23T22:20:45.523-05:002010-11-23T22:20:45.523-05:00I didn't read anyone else's comments so th...I didn't read anyone else's comments so this might be completely off-the-wall, or it might be repetitive.<br /><br />I'd like to see arch nemesis Missy introduced a little sooner with a blurb about WHY they're enemies. Is Missy the reigning Barrel Racing Champion? Is she snooty? <br /><br />Other than that, nice job!Vicki Rochohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07381089434014961076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-87963857275263705822010-11-23T21:48:32.846-05:002010-11-23T21:48:32.846-05:00I like it! I definitely want the book for my class...I like it! I definitely want the book for my classroom! :)Jemi Fraserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02214408467456320167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-71872094256464883402010-11-23T19:46:30.439-05:002010-11-23T19:46:30.439-05:00I thought the query came off as short, sweet, and ...I thought the query came off as short, sweet, and to the point. It was all I needed to know. I like that.<br /><br />Lee<br /><a href="http://tossingitout.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Tossing It Out</a>Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-58640116712687663392010-11-23T19:36:23.448-05:002010-11-23T19:36:23.448-05:00Okay, trying my hand at this (though I always feel...Okay, trying my hand at this (though I always feel so useless offering advice)<br /><br />Overall I think the query is clean and strong. But I did feel like voice was missing, which I know some people have already said (including matt) but...I'll add a little more.<br /><br /> I felt like I had a really good idea what to expect from the plot of the book--which is more than half the battle--but I felt like I didn't really have much clue as to the books voice or style, especially in the opening paragraph, where I really think the voice should shine. <br /><br />Phrases like "is determined to do something someone her age has never done before" and "All she has to do" and "she’ll be on her way" are all kind of...generic. I've read them before in lots and lots of places. Not saying they're bad--at all. But I wonder if there's a way to say them that showcases your voice more. <br /><br />It's hard to give specific suggestions, since I don't know the voice or style of the book. But I definitely think being more specific, and adding more emotion to the statements will help. Especially when you talk about her discovering that her horse is stolen. <br /><br />Great comments from Matt and everyone else. Hope mine helps. Ignore it if it doesn't.Shannon Messengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08003607156860716462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-10112188569681286822010-11-23T19:34:14.894-05:002010-11-23T19:34:14.894-05:00Actually, Dezmond, this is my first attempt at you...Actually, Dezmond, this is my first attempt at younger material. I write romance. Crazy switch, right? lol But I've noticed the trend, too. I think because it's a genre that intrigues a lot of readers (not just young ones) and the market is pretty big. <br /><br />Joanna, at 233 words the word count falls within the normal range. I've even got a little wiggle room to add the personal info. <br /><br />I'm so glad everyone likes it! (With a few tweaks, that is). Makes me smile. ;-) I guess they were right: "Write what you know". LoL. I know TONS about horses! <br /><br />~JDJEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12390400360357693403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-69832386557546145062010-11-23T17:45:52.500-05:002010-11-23T17:45:52.500-05:00I'm not a great query writer, so I'll stay...I'm not a great query writer, so I'll stay out of the debate. I like it, though. :)Amanda Borenstadthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03061109442550378113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-66993665928615887922010-11-23T16:33:41.846-05:002010-11-23T16:33:41.846-05:00I've noticed that most writers in our blogosph...I've noticed that most writers in our blogosphere write YA things or books for kids. Why's that?DEZMONDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14127166104359407763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-67057546024828003582010-11-23T15:01:02.886-05:002010-11-23T15:01:02.886-05:00Actually everyone's comments got me thinking c...Actually everyone's comments got me thinking could this be a little too long for a query since you still have to add the introductory paragraph and the personal paragraph listing your accomplishments too?<br />Am not sure how it looks on word, but this is just an observation you might want to watch out for, I think what you have down is fantastic btwJoanna St. Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06180782095853911283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-33172191735567193352010-11-23T14:45:50.933-05:002010-11-23T14:45:50.933-05:00As I said yesterday, I like Justine's query an...As I said yesterday, I like Justine's query and the premise seems very sound to me. This is exactly the kind of book my girls would read. <br /><br />I wouldn't worry about 'giving too much away,' in the query, but I think Matthew hit on something when he said he was confused by the sudden shift in situation, perhaps the clarity could be improved there. <br /><br />Good critique Matt, and nice query, Justine. Good luck with the agents.IanBontemshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13942749761260327580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-49103291353888868102010-11-23T13:08:41.840-05:002010-11-23T13:08:41.840-05:00I used to love reading the Saddle Club books when ...I used to love reading the Saddle Club books when I was younger. I love reading stories about horses. I can't really say new to add about your query, you've already gotten such great advice! :)Nicole Zoltackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07464800543376449290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-83255034197734836592010-11-23T12:07:18.188-05:002010-11-23T12:07:18.188-05:00When I first read Justine's query - I really t...When I first read Justine's query - I really thought "wow" and the wow for me was the whole premise of two girls overcoming their differences and co-operating together and hopefully discovering a shared sisterhood too! If I was an agent I'd ask to read it asap!! LOL!! Oh but I think Matthew's raised some good points here to mull over. I haven't a clue about queries so it's an eye opener for me seeing the bits that Matthew's pointed out that may need clarification and further re-writing! GOOD LUCK Justine and thank you Matthew Rush! Take care<br />xOld Kittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13185547869183611159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-61363862640745989872010-11-23T12:06:12.648-05:002010-11-23T12:06:12.648-05:00Really good comments so far, from Matt as well as ...Really good comments so far, from Matt as well as from blogger buddies. Sounds like a fun story, and girls who love horses will be thrilled! I agree with the 1st Shannon--knowing nothing about horses, I had no idea what Barrel Racing was. This is crucial info and should be in the hook/first line somehow. <br /><br />Rocket is a great name for a horse, by the way!Carol Riggshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14092209912983783974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-90616206450561350402010-11-23T11:42:52.829-05:002010-11-23T11:42:52.829-05:00I think you have a lot of great comments here alre...I think you have a lot of great comments here already, Justine. I agree that you should add more voice. Matt's and Shannon's comments are spot on! :-)Shannon O'Donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17299313309059235876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-6152922255893018292010-11-23T11:08:01.117-05:002010-11-23T11:08:01.117-05:00Matt said exactly what I was going to say... ;p
...Matt said exactly what I was going to say... ;p <br /><br />seriously, though, I think this is great, and I do agree that third 'graph gives TMI. But it looks like you've all got it covered.<br /><br />super query, Justine--GOOD LUCK! :o)LTMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239077455322030275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-76344861167934065832010-11-23T11:06:31.182-05:002010-11-23T11:06:31.182-05:00Great work Matthew and Justine--these posts are he...Great work Matthew and Justine--these posts are helpful to everyone.<br /><br />I also appreciate the help that other bloggers have offered me.Slamdunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13087161268629251860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-70932281828910339512010-11-23T10:25:28.783-05:002010-11-23T10:25:28.783-05:00I love the escalating conflict! I want to read the...I love the escalating conflict! I want to read the book. Really. I don't have much to add as you said this is the meat and potatoes. It'd be great to see the final paragraphs like your credentials or the equivelent thereof.<br /><br />Oh, and I have an award for you. Its not much, but my PhotoShop skills are limited at bet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-11723279219644290572010-11-23T09:59:34.753-05:002010-11-23T09:59:34.753-05:00You all are awesome! I'm glad so many of you l...You all are awesome! I'm glad so many of you like it! The premise of the story was actually my daughter's idea. All I did was put the details down on paper. Now she wants a who series. ;-)<br /><br />~JDJEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12390400360357693403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-87323374988213355992010-11-23T09:47:00.406-05:002010-11-23T09:47:00.406-05:00GREAT input, Matt. I actually don't think she ...GREAT input, Matt. I actually don't think she needs the entire second paragraph--and i agree (with Justine) about toning down or taking away the burning barn part (And not giving a bunch of things away)!Christina Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01799776834213400246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-18863539111604810792010-11-23T09:43:18.317-05:002010-11-23T09:43:18.317-05:00Nothing more to add from me as I'm not familia...Nothing more to add from me as I'm not familiar with MG stuff. But I think it's a great query! :o)Jessica Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10889900730906728317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-13406784108627413572010-11-23T09:18:24.466-05:002010-11-23T09:18:24.466-05:00I think this is such a great story. I have no expe...I think this is such a great story. I have no experience in MG writing, but I read the letter to a friend's daughter and she loves the idea. Thanks for the exposure into MG.<br /><br />Thanks Matthew.Shain Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01908810007467259885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-67952854564958355502010-11-23T09:14:06.607-05:002010-11-23T09:14:06.607-05:00Sounds like a great premise for the story.
Good su...Sounds like a great premise for the story.<br />Good summary, but I think it needs to be punched up a bit with more exciting verbs/words. Show voice and description of main character an it will be perfect!Kelly Polarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968381456100611120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345890055658252124.post-50960525710074734292010-11-23T09:10:08.179-05:002010-11-23T09:10:08.179-05:00I agree with Matt's assessment. Just a couple ...I agree with Matt's assessment. Just a couple of things that jumped out at me:<br /><br />1. I had no idea what a National Barrel Racing Championship was. It wasn't until I was in the final sentence of the first paragraph that I figured out it had something to do with horses. In addition to showing us a bit more about Kelly's character is there a way you can ground me in her world faster?<br /><br />2. I noticed a few grammar errors. I know, I know - nit picky. But queries need to be perfect. The grammar mistakes stuck out.<br /><br />3. I want to know more about her character. Is she a good girl or a rebel? I'm not sure if her breaking into the barn manager's office is a huge risk for her or just another antic.<br /><br />4. Why is Missy Kelly's nemesis? Nemesis is a broad term. I want to understand the conflict, which might raise the stakes.<br /><br />5. Agree with Matt about confusion about the 3rd para.<br /><br />6. The last para is a great summary but I think a stronger word than dislike (despise) might give it more meat. And I'm still not sure what the girls need to save themselves from?<br /><br />Overall, very well done! Good to see you around, Justine, and thanks for sharing.Shannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11640509596922335617noreply@blogger.com